How I Began A $1.1M/12 months Publishing Firm That Helps Writers


Good day! Who’re you and what enterprise did you begin?

I’m the Founder and CEO of Paper Raven Books, a publishing firm that helps folks write, publish, and market books.

Our authors retain the inventive imaginative and prescient, authorized rights, and income of their books, and so they work with our all-star crew by means of the editorial, design, manufacturing, and advertising items of publishing a e-book.

In the present day, we have now over 150 shoppers who we’re working with in some a part of the method, we publish 60 books a yr, and we gross $1.1 million in income. Our crew of publishing professionals has 18 full-time members, who’re all distant, doing the work they love, whereas offering superb service to our authors, from wherever on the planet.

I’m presently in Texas, with my husband and 4 youngsters, the place I’m in a position to run a seven-figure publishing firm and stroll my youngsters to and from faculty day-after-day. It’s a win-win for everybody concerned!


What’s your backstory and the way did you provide you with the concept?

I had no concept I used to be making a publishing firm! I began out as a contract editor and writing coach, working with my shoppers throughout naptimes and after bedtime.

I had gone from faculty right into a PhD program, with the hope of turning into a professor of Sociology, however I found that academia was not for me. What I did love doing, although, was serving to different graduate college students and junior college with their writing—papers, theses, articles, and monographs (tutorial books).

I left the graduate program after I earned the grasp’s, discovered I might quickly have my first little one, and thought that freelance modifying and writing teaching could be one thing I may do on the facet.

I nonetheless had a handful of contacts from graduate faculty, and I requested them for referrals. With every new shopper, after I accomplished work for them, I continued to ask for referrals, slowly rising my shopper base. After a number of years, I had sufficient work to maintain me busy, and there have been even instances after I was too busy!

It’s not a terrific concept to construct one thing after which promote it. It’s significantly better to promote one thing, first, after which construct it.

I keep in mind one household trip, we’d simply had our third child, and I mentioned, “Sure” to a rush challenge. I packed my laptop computer, proper together with the swim diapers and floaties. We went to the seashore home, and I will need to have labored as a substitute of sleeping as a result of I obtained the challenge completed, and we have now pictures of me and the children on the seashore, however I keep in mind little or no of the holiday.

I made a decision that though I wished to continue to grow my enterprise, I wished so as to add in some leverage—some method to preserve shoppers coming in, with out me getting busier with each new shopper.

I introduced in a number of fellow editors to work with me on tasks. I might join the brand new shopper and handle the challenge, and considered one of my editors would do the work. It took me some time to grasp the ebb and stream of earnings and price of products bought, however I may inform that I used to be heading in the right direction towards the kind of leverage I wished.

We began specializing in e-book tasks, particularly, as a result of shoppers have been prepared to pay good cash to have their e-book manuscripts edited, and it gave us some flexibility within the challenge turn-around time. I used to be beginning to create a little bit of a enterprise mannequin.

After a few years, we began having shoppers come again to us and say, “Thanks a lot for serving to me end and edit my e-book manuscript! It’s nonetheless a Phrase Doc. I haven’t discovered anybody who will assist me publish. Might you assist me self-publish this e-book?”

And, after all, I had no concept easy methods to publish a e-book. I knew easy methods to write a e-book and easy methods to edit a e-book, however the one expertise within the publishing world I had was as an intern at a tutorial publishing home. (And that was not an inspiring place, because the go-fer lady!)

So, in 2015, I wrote and revealed my e-book and documented the entire course of. That e-book, cleverly titled Begin Writing Your Guide In the present day, continues to be on Amazon and has over 1,700 opinions. We requested a number of of our greatest shoppers if we may “guinea pig” their e-book and work out the method with them.

We charged some cash, so we may cowl our prices, however we wished to make it a win-win scenario. After we did a handful of books in 2015, we felt assured we may ship a terrific expertise for writers who wished to self-publish their books with knowledgeable crew.

Now, we’re in our ninth yr of publishing books, and we’re persevering with to push the envelope of greatest practices round writing, modifying, designing, publishing, and advertising books. It’s a enjoyable, ever-changing business, and individuals who love books are merely one of the best folks to work with!

Take us by means of the method of constructing the primary model of your product.

In a service-based enterprise, you’ve gotten plenty of flexibility in the way you “bundle” what you do for shoppers. I’ve modified how I describe, ship, and value our companies dozens of instances through the years. I’ll describe a number of of the milestones, with classes discovered, within the hopes of supplying you with some perception into your small business.

After I first began out, I charged $18 per hour for my companies as a contract editor and writing coach. I’ll say that the hourly charge makes it straightforward to start out out whenever you don’t know the way lengthy you’ll must spend on completely different tasks.

Bear in mind, although, that it brings up plenty of questions from potential shoppers, like, “Properly, how a lot is that this going to be?” So, you do find yourself offering some ballparks, and you might be quick or lengthy in your estimates, however you’re simply invoicing primarily based on hours. You’ll be able to observe your time, as you go, and work your manner towards having the ability to predict a challenge value, forward of time, which shoppers do choose.

As a result of my hourly charge was (ridiculously) low, this fashion of approaching pricing didn’t give me any actual bandwidth to put money into my enterprise (like a web site, electronic mail service supplier, checkout processor, digital assistant, and many others). 100% of my enterprise was referral-based, so I had no advertising bills, however I additionally had no actual management over when new enterprise got here to me. It was a traditional “feast or famine” freelancer rhythm.

As soon as I introduced on a number of editors to work with me on tasks, we priced per phrase for editorial companies, typically within the vary of $.02 per phrase to $.08 per phrase, relying on the extent and depth of modifying. We priced every manuscript individually and took funds, half upfront, and half upon completion.

I found that I wanted to pay the editor one thing like 70% of what the entire invoice was to the shopper as a result of there have been extra shifting elements and items. Along with the web site, electronic mail service supplier, and checkout processor, I used to be spending time making the sale, managing the challenge, and being a useful resource for my editorial crew.

I used to be additionally starting to put money into a weblog, the place I wrote articles about writing, creativity, productiveness, self-editing, and dealing with an editor. I used to be not doing any paid promoting, but, however I used to be getting a number of extra shoppers by means of folks discovering my weblog, which was serving to to develop the enterprise, general.

Whether or not we have been working with shoppers within the hourly mannequin or the per-word mannequin, we have been all the time monitoring our time. I tracked my time, and all of my crew members tracked their time, even after we have been now not utilizing the time to invoice shoppers, and the rationale for that was so we may get higher at estimating how lengthy various kinds of tasks and items of every challenge would take us.

In 2017, I began “packaging” our companies and making a challenge value, which we may take as a month-to-month fee, or for a ten% low cost, we may take as an upfront fee.

This was a game-changer for our mannequin as a result of I used to be lastly in a position to cowl all the bills that go right into a challenge—the crew members doing the work, the crew members who have been serving to with challenge administration, the software program and subscriptions we would have liked internally, and a advertising finances.

We began doing paid promoting, largely sending Fb visitors to webinars that I might host, so we may begin bringing in additional new shoppers. Over the subsequent couple of years, I did over 100 dwell webinars. At first, I did dwell webinars as soon as every week, and ultimately, I got here to a second dwell webinar per week. We’d drive Fb visitors to those webinars, I might educate concerning the publishing course of, and I might invite folks to use to work with us.

And, for the final 5 years, that’s nonetheless how we largely do our enterprise: bundle pricing, paid promoting to webinars, and crew delivering the service. Our numbers are simply greater now than they have been. In 2017, we spent a number of hundred {dollars} a month on promoting and dealing with just some shoppers at a time, with just some crew members.

Now, we’re spending $20,000 monthly in promoting, working with 150 shoppers at a time, and 18 crew members plus a small pool of freelancers. Similar mannequin, simply slowly rising over time.

Describe the method of launching the enterprise.

After I first began as a freelancer, I bootstrapped every thing, and bills have been minimal. New shoppers got here by means of referral, it was simply me, and no actual overhead. I wasn’t spending a lot, however I wasn’t making a lot, both—$30,000 a yr.

It was good supplemental earnings whereas I used to be largely at dwelling with my infant, however I didn’t know the way to usher in new shoppers.


After I made a decision I wished to develop the enterprise, I dedicated to dwell, weekly webinars. I drove visitors from Fb to webinar registration pages.

I additionally experimented with FB Lives and simply posting movies. Lately, I are likely to put up movies which can be 2 to five minutes lengthy, tease up the webinar, and ask folks to go register for the free webinar. Right here’s what a typical video from me will appear like (nothing fancy!):


For a number of years, I used to be operating my advertisements and preserving the finances fairly low, round $200 to $500 a month. However, within the grand scheme of bringing in about $5,000 monthly in shoppers, it was all shaking out simply effective.

Plus, I used to be spending cash on programs and training, since I had no background on this on-line advertising world. I used to be most likely spending $20,000 a yr on my schooling, which I paid for as a substitute of paying myself.

I continued scaling the paid promoting by myself and doing the webinars weekly (after which twice per week) till we have been at round $500,000 a yr in income.

Then, in 2020, when the pandemic was preserving everybody at dwelling, I took an enormous danger. It appeared like such a golden second for individuals who wished to jot down their books. I employed an company to start out our operating advertisements and massively elevated our advertisements finances. All in, it was $7,500 a month, and about half of that was occurring a bank card, which was scary and I can’t say I’d advocate it!

Fortunately, it did pan out, and that was the transfer that obtained us from mid-six figures into seven figures. I couldn’t sustain with all of the advertisements by myself and run the webinars and take the gross sales calls and develop the crew.

So, offloading advertisements to an company was a lever for us to scale. We now spend about $20,000 a month on advertisements, and we usher in round $150,000 monthly in income. (Shout out to the Shoppers On-line crew and Janak Mehta! Inform him Morgan despatched you, and he’ll be sure to work with one of the best.

Since launch, what has labored to draw and retain prospects?

For attracting new prospects, the primary advertising device that helped me pivot into the e-book modifying area (versus simply basic freelance modifying) was publishing my e-book, Begin Writing Your Guide In the present day. I nonetheless get leads and emails from individuals who’ve learn my e-book and labored with us.

Create the shopper expertise that’s going to get outcomes in your prospects, and then you definately’ll be capable of discover extra, identical to them.

As we’ve moved into scaling, we’ve leaned closely into Fb and Instagram advertisements, though we’re beginning to get into Google and YouTube.

Beneath is an advert that’s been working effectively. I attempt to do quick movies that present my face, at the very least originally, and have onerous captions. I do the captions with a software program referred to as “Descript.”

The important thing to the video being attention-grabbing is speaking about one thing that individuals may not have heard earlier than, one thing counterintuitive or shocking. It’s quick, so you possibly can’t go tremendous in-depth, however tease the attention-grabbing concept after which invite them to one thing free to go deeper on that concept.

In my case, the advert asks folks to register for a free workshop, which is evergreen, taking place at midday Mountain time day-after-day. You’ll be able to see that webinar registration web page right here.

One large shift I’ve made within the webinar, itself, is that I used to ask folks to get on a gross sales name to speak with me a few full-service bundle, which may very well be $10,000, all the way in which as much as $40,000. I might make gross sales, however only a few gross sales, in comparison with the quantity of people that would attend the webinars—perhaps 1 out of 100 would have a gross sales name, and perhaps half of these would change into a shopper.

Now, I supply for folks to get on a gross sales name to speak about an intro bundle with a a lot smaller scope. We assessment their manuscript, supply our skilled steerage on the e-book, and supply our insights into how we’d strategy advertising the e-book. It’s one thing we are able to ship in about 6 weeks, it’s $3,000, and in the event that they’d wish to preserve working with our crew, we credit score the $3,000 towards any future work with us.

This smaller bundle is way simpler for a potential shopper to say, “Sure” to as a result of it’s cheaper, and so they get sensible, useful recommendation from our crew with no long-term dedication. Most likely 2 or 3 out of 100 get on a gross sales name and half of these signal on—which, whenever you pull that out into hundreds of webinar attendees, that rapidly turns into tons of of individuals saying, “Sure” to this smaller bundle!

By way of paid promoting math, we’re presently seeing: 250 webinar registrants per week (at a median of $12.50 per webinar registrant = $3,125 paid promoting per week + some retargeting advert spend), and three% to 4% of webinar registrants apply to work with us (250 3.5% = roughly 8 candidates per week). Of the 8 candidates, 4 say, “Sure” to the smaller bundle. That $12,000 income per week pays for our promoting and our firm’s baseline prices.

Then, sometimes 2 of these smaller packages upsell into greater packages, which may very well be an extra $7,000 to $37,000. (Keep in mind, we’re crediting the preliminary $3,000 towards our greater packages.) So, sure, the larger packages are what allow the enterprise to have a revenue margin and room to maintain investing in groups, schooling, and improvements.


How are you doing right now and what does the longer term appear like?

As a service-based enterprise, about 20% of our income goes to promoting to usher in new prospects and 60% of our income goes to folks—editors, designers, challenge managers, advertising specialists. That solely leaves 10% for any incidentals (software program subscriptions, schooling, and many others) and 10% for revenue margin.

Our operations have dialed in over the past couple of years. We’ve a workers that simply makes certain tasks are operating easily, with detailed checklists, scheduled Zoom calls with shoppers, and built-out sources and FAQs to make answering questions simpler for everybody.

One factor that did assist us streamline operations was that we determined to largely serve US shoppers, for the second. We might go worldwide, sooner or later, however coping with Amazon KDP, IngramSpark, and the ISBN registration course of in only one nation has made publication a lot simpler to simplify for us.

Up subsequent for our firm, on a tactical stage, I feel we are able to add extra on-line course choices that don’t require fairly a lot of an funding on behalf of our crew. If even a small share of our 250 weekly webinar registrants would favor a do-it-yourself course or group calls by means of the publishing course of or e-book advertising developments, that might assist us generate extra income from the identical variety of leads.

On a much bigger model stage, we’re attracting authors who’re extra entrepreneurial and fascinated with taking their e-book gross sales to a complete new stage. We’re integrating Amazon advertisements, and I’ve large plans for a bookstore (on-line and ultimately in-person) that may assist our authors promote on to their readers. Even when they arrange funnels to our retailer, they’d get a terrific income per e-book bought and would retain the shopper data—neither of which you get from a present bookstore!

I’ve massive plans for Paper Raven Books to shake up the e-book world, and we’re simply getting began!

Via beginning the enterprise, have you ever discovered something significantly useful or advantageous?

Should you’re questioning concerning the course factor and saying, “Why don’t you simply promote a course,” there’s a backstory to that. There was a time in my enterprise after I thought that promoting a digital course would resolve all of my issues. I spent years making an attempt to get a digital course to promote effectively and constantly.

But it surely’s not that straightforward to get folks to purchase a digital course, you’re nonetheless spending a bunch of cash on advertisements, folks need refunds, they’ve questions, and so they need all they’ll get out of you for a few hundred bucks.

After I lastly realized that individuals have been prepared to pay far more cash simply to have assist publishing the e-book, we doubled down on done-for-you companies, and that’s been so significantly better for the enterprise. Plus, I get to assist amazingly proficient publishing professionals work with devoted authors—a complete win-win-win!

I’ve discovered that it’s not a terrific concept to construct one thing after which promote it. It’s significantly better to promote one thing, first, after which construct it. And be versatile with whether or not it’s a service or a product or one thing in between. Create the shopper expertise that’s going to get outcomes in your prospects, and then you definately’ll be capable of discover extra, identical to them.

Ask for testimonials, ask for referrals, and don’t be afraid to ask for cash, particularly when it’s a helpful services or products that individuals actually need.

What platform/instruments do you utilize for your small business?

For our enterprise:

Basecamp for challenge administration.

Zoho for gross sales pipeline administration.

Zoom for webinars, gross sales calls, and conferences. for quizzes and lead technology.

Aevent for evergreen webinar funnel.

Siteground and WordPress for the web site.

Descript for video modifying and captions.

Google Drive for doc and spreadsheet sharing.

Instruments we used after we have been a smaller firm: SamCart for checkout pages, ConvertKit for an electronic mail service supplier, Acuity for calendar scheduling.

Circle for internet hosting our personal communities.

For authors:

Writer Rocket for operating market analyses on e-book concepts.

Scrivener for writing first drafts of books.

Grammarly and ProWriting Help for modifying e-book manuscripts.

99Designs for e-book covers.

What have been probably the most influential books, podcasts, or different sources?

Ryan Levesque (writer of Ask and Select) has been extremely influential in my journey. I labored with him in his ASK Technique teaching program for six years and discovered every thing I learn about digital advertising from him and his enterprise companion, Richard Cussons.

Just a few books that I might contemplate “required studying” for anybody who’s promoting on-line:

Ask by Ryan Levesque

Select by Ryan Levesque

Affect by Robert Cialdini

No B.S. Value Technique by Dan Kennedy

$100M Provides by Alex Hormozi

Just a few podcasts that I return to, repeatedly:

Perpetual Site visitorswith Kasim Aslam and Ralph Burns

Deep Questions with Cal Newport

The Artistic Penn with Joanna Penn (for authors)

Recommendation for different entrepreneurs who wish to get began or are simply beginning out?

Should you really feel a deep, irrational want to leap into the entrepreneurial recreation—do it! You’ll all the time remorse not making an attempt, and the earlier you leap in, the earlier you’ll work out easy methods to swim.

Constructing a enterprise isn’t straightforward. Constructing a enterprise is worth it. Preserve your eye on the imaginative and prescient you’ve gotten in your success, each in enterprise and in what the enterprise will make potential in your life. Be prepared to pivot, preserve your eye locked on the imaginative and prescient that you just’re striving for, and place confidence in your self.

Are you trying to rent for sure positions proper now?

I might be completely happy to speak to a Direct Response Digital Marketer who could be fascinated with a specialist position that may oversee the rollout and optimization of webinar funnels, electronic mail campaigns, and gross sales letter campaigns. I presently serve that position within the firm, and I’m not the best particular person to work with, however when you perceive these high-level webinar stats I shared above, and you realize what that funnel most likely seems like and a few methods to optimize, I may very well be persuaded to rent seasoned funnel specialist.

I’d wish to know that you’ve got the chops (deliver your greatest funnel case research with you), and I’d be completely happy to speak.

And when you’re fascinated with being a e-book editor, we really might need some openings in our certification program that may enable you change into knowledgeable e-book editor and develop your individual editorial enterprise, with our assist. There’s an unimaginable quantity of alternative to work with keen, devoted writers, and we’d like extra nice e-book editors!

For any of those pursuits, please present your data right here.

The place can we go to be taught extra?

When you’ve got any questions or feedback, drop a remark under!


Morgan Gist MacDonald,
Founding father of Paper Raven Books

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