Slack Struggle: Ought to we pay for Android Premium?

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The NextPit ring was getting a little bit dusty, because it has been some time since we have had a duel right here. However now, it’s that point once more: I formally problem Antoine to a different spherical of our NextPit slack combat! As all the time, it considerations a tech subject the place we’ve utterly opposing opinions. Now, earlier than I squeeze into my superhero gear to go into battle towards Antoine, let me offer you a fast overview of what it’s all about.

A paid model of Android: The answer to all our Android issues?

Think about choosing up your bloatware-clogged and ad-infested mid-range smartphone the place you pay a month-to-month subscription price and voila! The smartphone now not affords adverts and different undesirable bloatware, whereas sporting new options and common software program updates! These updates are additionally accessible for not simply two, however all the best way to 5 years!

Would that be a mannequin price striving for or is it merely a pipe dream? Antoine and I’ve very totally different views on this, so let’s get this combat into the ring and clear the stage for spherical 1!

Spherical 1: Costly smartphones have their value, low cost ones too

Casi: Hey Antoine, I just lately learn a textual content someplace about some type of “Premium Android”, i.e. an Android model that it’s a must to pay for which additionally removes all bloatware and promoting on finances smartphones. Would not one thing like that be completely superior?

Antoine: Yeah, yeah, I feel I learn the identical article as properly. It is an fascinating angle, however presenting this potential actuality with none crucial thought or cynical view is a very harmful factor, IMHO.

As you could have guessed, I’m largely, not 100%, however largely towards this concept of a premium subscription for Android. I don’t assume that software program updates and options needs to be introduced as DLC. On the very least, not hidden behind a paywall for chosen customers. A smartphone is a product, not a service. A subscription-based software program improve would solely convey momentary advantages when it comes to pricing, however could be detrimental in the long term, particularly on the subject of the UX (consumer interface) and customer support.

Casi: Haha, I virtually anticipated that concept to not obtain any traction from you. You’ve got already talked about a ton of factors, so I am going to check out them so as. Let’s first discuss concerning the pricing difficulty that you just introduced up: Such pricing is commonly related to firms like Xiaomi the place they provide actually good high quality {hardware} at surprisingly low costs.


Take a look at our article about one of the best Xiaomi fashions of the yr and take a look on the costs of present Xiaomi smartphones:

The very best Xiaomi smartphones beneficial by NextPit in 2021


These low or extremely reasonably priced costs are made doable provided that the producer sponsored it in a technique or one other. That is why they wish to fill our smartphones with bloatware that nobody wants, nevertheless it’s essential for Xiaomi (and its cohort) to take care of reasonably priced pricing. I perceive that they’ve to show a revenue, however that is the place a subscription mannequin for a premium model of Android turns into a chance: We pay a small quantity every month and in return, we obtain a pleasant, clear machine that’s free from bloatware and annoying adverts. Let’s not overlook that bloatware can be accompanied by its justifiable share of promoting. Generally, you might have them on the lockscreen itself, within the apps, and even within the notification bar or within the settings. Would not it’s a good deal to do away with all that for only a small month-to-month price?

Antoine: I perceive that time. I perceive the will to pay for comfort. However that is precisely the type of lure that producers exploit, which is why I hate this complete marketing strategy within the first place.

I imply, what’s the primary argument right here? “Individuals need cheaper smartphones with higher specs”. So OEMs needed to lower prices on software program up to now, proper? That is why mid-range smartphones do not get up to date so long as flagship fashions and in addition lack the particular options present in flagships, or they embody bloatware and/or adverts, such as you talked about.

But when low cost {hardware} has to make sacrifices within the type of much less polished software program, why ought to I pay extra simply to take pleasure in a barely first rate consumer expertise, huh? Why not simply pay only a few extra {dollars} proper from the very starting to acquire a superior handset in all points and a clear, ad- and bloatware-free smartphone ? Huh? TELL ME, CASI!!!!!.

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Samsung’s One UI is likely one of the hottest interfaces constructed on prime of Android / © Samsung

What bothers me about this idea of premium Android is that you just’re mainly paying for the producer to take away software program restrictions that they’ve determined to incorporate within the first place. I do not thoughts paying extra for extra, however I am not going to pay to get the identical factor that I ought to have acquired once I bought the product within the first place.

If Xiaomi or Samsung wished so as to add options to the UI of their smartphones simply to compensate for the “alleged” lack of income from promoting me a less expensive smartphone, then I do not need their foolish cheaper smartphone. I might gladly spend extra to personal a tool that does not power me to take care of all this crap. The client should not be punished with crappy software program within the first place as a result of they do not need to fork out $1,000 or extra on a smartphone!

Casi: Okay, I can truly perceive that whenever you ask why producers do not cost an inexpensive value for first rate merchandise within the first place. However you possibly can’t put the genie again within the bottle. Within the meantime, we anticipate to buy a smartphone for $300 or $400, with which you’ll snap first rate photos, play some video games right here and there and, after all, surf the Web and be on social media always. If a producer have been to all of a sudden cost a Benjamin extra with out something noticeably totally different other than the dearth of bloatware and promoting, individuals would merely transfer on. They’d proceed to choose up a smartphone from one other producer that also expenses a less expensive value.

Have you ever EVER seen individuals say issues like, “This was beforehand free and all of a sudden it prices a lot extra? That seems like an incredible thought!”??? Nobody ever says something like that!

As for the extra options that producers are together with in their UIs, I am ambivalent about this matter. On the one hand, there’s quite a lot of stuff that we do not want, however there are additionally helpful options that may later make their approach into the Android platform frequently. Samsung, Xiaomi, and others are those that drive the event right here. As for the choice whether or not I just like the interface or not, I’m the one who will find yourself making the choice earlier than choosing it up within the query of a premium Android model. My level is, we are able to decide whether or not we need to reside with promoting on the smartphone or not. Take Amazon’s instance: A Kindle comes with promoting, and the identical machine is obtainable for $20 extra with none promoting. Seems like an inexpensive idea, would not it?

Antoine: Your instance has its weaknesses at some factors. If Xiaomi all of a sudden decides to lift the value of its mid-range smartphones as a result of they do not include adverts and bloatware, that may clearly be a foul transfer for them. It is because one other Chinese language OEM could be ready to switch them virtually instantly.

The one factor that you just didn’t appear to think about is, most producers depend on their mid-range catalog. It isn’t simply out of generosity that Samsung determined to replace the Galaxy A52 for 4 years, which is on par with its flagships. It is because Samsung is aware of that it sells extra models of the Galaxy A52 than it does of, say, the Galaxy S21.

So that you’re complicated this positive steadiness of energy. Producers do not promote reasonably priced smartphones to do favors for his or her clients. Producers NEED reasonably priced smartphones as a result of 99 p.c of their clients will not pay greater than $300 for a smartphone.

So it isn’t the buyer’s duty to assist the producer make a revenue as a result of they’re dropping cash in order that we are able to have reasonably priced smartphones.

It is the producers’ duty to ensure that reasonably priced units stay enticing, not simply via {hardware}, but in addition via software program, as a result of in any other case individuals would not purchase their different choices.

Charging me additional to compensate for limitations imposed by the design of my machine strikes me as extraordinarily misleading conduct. They’re monetizing the answer to an issue that they themselves have created merely for financial causes.

Spherical 2: We want quick, common, and lengthy updates

Casi: Okay, let’s speak about software program then. Since you’re proper: In any case, it isn’t simply concerning the adverts or any pre-installed bloatware. I simply think about the easiest of Android, the place premium Android will assure safety and software program updates.

  • Not having to attend for half a yr or extra for a brand new model of Android to reach on my smartphone!
  • Month-to-month safety updates as a substitute of as soon as simply each three or six months!
  • 5 years of assured software program help as a substitute of discovering after two years that you’ve got a totally practical smartphone however the software program is outdated!

I might pay a month-to-month subscription for such a service, the place the smartphone producer makes use of the subscription to fund the staff behind these safety and software program updates. It seems like an inexpensive enterprise mannequin to me!

You will say, “Effectively, why not allow them to embody higher software program within the first place?”, however that is not the way it works. Improvement is progressing at neck-breaking speeds and we are able to do issues with our smartphones right now that we could not simply three or 4 years in the past. So in case you had paid $100 extra again then, they nonetheless would not have been capable of implement the brand new options which might be accessible right now.


Lately, we requested you in a survey about Android updates:

Ballot evaluation: Sure, you are into updates!


Antoine: I can think about paying for brand new Android variations. I imply, do you pay for brand new variations of Home windows or macOS? Do not get me improper, I do not WANT this sort of system in any respect. But when it means receiving updates for the following 5 to six years with none additional delays, why not?

However why? Why, Casi? To illustrate I pay $300 for a smartphone. I’ve 2 main Android variations and three years of quarterly safety patches “free of charge”. How would you place a worth on 3 extra years of software program help? How a lot does it actually value? What number of subscriptions would a producer have to fund the manpower and R&D over all these further years?

Even when the subscription prices solely $10 month-to-month, that is $120 yearly. Should you have been to pay for a further three years, that is $360, on prime of the $300 that you just initially shelled out for the smartphone.

So once more, sorry to be the annoying boomer who retains repeating himself, however WHY NOT PAY MORE?

Do you actually assume the low preliminary entry value of a smartphone and splitting the help prices by way of a subscription system makes the general possession value extra acceptable than in case you have been to pay every little thing upfront?

Casi: Thankfully we do not have to work out the pricing mannequin, my expensive Antoine. The producers themselves ought to sit down and take into consideration what sort of value construction works. Check out what our smartphones are able to and you will see that there are very good individuals with a number of concepts.

They need to get a little bit artistic and provide you with new options for his or her premium clients along with a pricing mannequin. Many customers are already overwhelmed with their smartphone features. So why not provide a extra rudimentary model of Android for the common consumer and a feature-laden one for paying clients?

In any case, we reside with a free model of Spotify in trade for adverts and fewer options. Then for Spotify premium, there’s a complete cornucopia of options. Why should not that mannequin work for Android as properly? It would even have the aspect impact of creating the “fundamental Android” sooner to replace sooner or later as a result of it isn’t so stuffed with options.

I do know you are going to inform me that they need to cost more cash proper from the get-go as a substitute of counting on a subscription mannequin.

However let’s not overlook that mid-range smartphones are additionally promoting so properly as a result of merely individuals both cannot afford or don’t need dearer smartphones. If individuals wished to purchase one thing dearer, it is usually below the guise of a sponsored contract. I pay $20 extra on prime of my common telephone invoice and get a pleasant, premium smartphone of which I could not afford if I needed to pay the total value proper now.

Asking this query to the person on the road whether or not individuals could be prepared to pay a fiver every month for a premium subscription or if they might quite pay $180 extra on the time of buy, and I am very positive that lots of people would select to separate the associated fee.

Antoine: Thankfully? So that you’re defending an thought/idea for a subscription with out even imagining what it might value you? That does not make any sense. That is such as you saying a smartphone has one of the best value/high quality ratio with out realizing the value.

“Why not provide a extra fundamental model of Android for the common consumer and a extra feature-rich one for paying clients?”

Wait a minute. First, you talked about {that a} subscription mannequin would imply paying extra to get extra, however now you are speaking about taking one thing away from common customers? That is truly precisely what I am afraid of with such a system.

Take DLCs in video games, for instance. It started with add-ons, extras, and utterly optionally available content material that you just needed to pay additional for, however would not take something away from the primary recreation in case you did not. If we take a look at the state of the DLC economic system and in-game purchases right now, it is a complete mess. From further and optionally available bonus content material, we now have virtually necessary premium purchases that it’s a must to make simply to take pleasure in an honest base expertise.

I discover it fascinating that you just see good software program help and a feature-rich UI as a bonus as a substitute of a fundamental proper for shoppers. Should not it’s one thing that we, the shoppers, deserve instantly after we pay for a accomplished product?

That is actually worrying, Casi, actually, actually, actually worrying. Are you feeling all proper? How a lot is China paying you?

Casi: Nah, I suppose we misunderstood one another there (otherwise you’re doing it on objective to make me look unhealthy right here). I do not need to take something away from “regular” Android customers, I simply assume that many shoppers aren’t even ready for a slew of latest options after they buy a smartphone. They’re proud of what they’ve as a result of they will snap images at events, ship out Instagram tales and WhatsApp messages, and be reachable by their smartphone.

We will discuss concerning the pay fashions in cellular video games individually someday. I am positive we’ll principally agree on the matter. However sorry, the comparability with a totally practical Android and a premium variant is lame!

Antoine: My unhealthy, I misunderstood you then. Nonetheless, I feel you are improper. Should you might quantify the scenario (of which you’ll’t), however in case you might, then the huge consumer base would have seen a better adoption fee of low cost smartphones in contrast amongst these of pricey fashions, so the declare that these individuals could be proud of fewer options or a extra fundamental model of Android is FALSE.

Spherical 3: Premium Android or not? Everybody ought to have a selection!

Antoine: I agree with you that individuals ought to have a selection. The one drawback with that’s the smartphone business depends on the mass-production mannequin. It is probably not that versatile, because the semiconductor scarcity disaster confirmed us. So I doubt that producers will have the ability to predict and match the orders of fundamental customers and premium customers. I critically can’t think about any of them bothering with that.

And I actually do not know in the event that they’d make any more cash doing so in comparison with promoting a brand new smartphone mannequin each month that individuals hold for 2 years earlier than the darkish cloud of programmed obsolescence covers them.

If we have been dwelling in a science-fiction dystopia, you would be a kind of wealthy, evil CEOs dwelling of their micro-city within the sky whereas the poor individuals reside in basements on the bottom with no entry to wash air or water, and many others… “Simply pay the premium package deal for humanity.”

Casi: Oh come on, Antoine – do you actually need me to convey examples of workplace suites, picture editors, or thousands and thousands of Android apps that are available in free and premium variants? It is a completely totally different case of whether or not I’ve to supply a smartphone in several variations, or whether or not I put totally different software program on it.

However at the least we agree that individuals ought to have a selection. So give me my premium Android, dammit! I need it right now!!! I need to be higher than these common Android customers!

…And me as an evil wealthy CEO wanting down on individuals with no entry to wash water or air? That is not a dystopia, that is a utopia! HAHA!!!

Antoine: Aside from the truth that you do not have to pay for a free app regardless of having already paid for a smartphone, premium or in any other case.

Casi: That is true, Antoine. However then once more, the consumer would not pay something for Android – it is already there whenever you purchase a smartphone. However let’s test with our readers to see what they assume.

And now, as soon as once more the query is explicitly addressed to you: Are you able to think about paying an reasonably priced quantity for a premium model of Android if you’ll be able to obtain longer assured help, extra options, and freedom from adverts in return?

So, after this confrontation, I am going to mud off the world sand from my garments and wait to see the way you, our expensive readers, consider the matter. In any case, it was an honor as soon as once more to go up towards Antoine and I hope there will probably be one other Slack Struggle quickly!

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